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first dates, okay not lie, online dating, relationships, safety first, smell of desperation, too eager, too many compliments
“May what I do flow from me like a river, no forcing and no holding back, the way it is with children.” ― Rainer Maria Rilke
My dating life ebbs and flows. I go through cycles. Sometimes I am very interested in dating, in finding a partner. I go on Match often, I read a lot profiles, I send likes.
Other times, as in now, I feel I have no time for it. Or, perhaps I should say ,I just don’t have much interest. I guess it is a combination of those factors.
Work has been occupying a lot of my mental capacity. The audit that started in August is still not finished, but it should be a matter of days now… fingers crossed.
Still, even with my lack of interest and time, I managed to exchange messages with someone and go on a date last Thursday night.
We met for dinner at Modern Restaurant in New Rochelle. He is 50 years old and works as part of spiritual care team at a large hospital. He is very accomplished and intelligent. He was personable and we had good conversations, mostly about his background and about Rumi. He is very well versed in on all things Rumi. I love Rumi.
I had a good time, but there was zero chemistry for me.
He paid me a lot compliments. He said that I am much better in person than in my pictures. That made me questions my pictures on Match.
“Nothing in this world is harder than speaking the truth, nothing easier than flattery.” ― Fyodor Dostoevsky
He seemed really interested in me, and let me know it at every second. While I appreciate the honesty and forwardness, it sometimes can smell of desperation and insincerity. Get to know someone more than a couple of hours before you start exalting them.
I don’t think he really knew how over the top he was really being. I did give him some pointers on future dates. I pointed out that there is such thing as “too much too soon”. He said I was his first date since he joined Match. So perhaps that is the problem right there. Too eager!
At the end of the date, he mentioned again that he was very enamored by me and wanted to see me again. He said: “I desire you”. That just made me cringe.
Then he asked if I was interested in him. Talk about putting someone on the spot!!
“I do know that the slickest way to lie is to tell the right amount of truth–then shut up.” ― Robert A. Heinlein, Stranger in a Strange Land
I didn’t know how to answer. Don’t get me wrong, I knew the answer. It was NO. I was not interested in seeing him again as a potential romantic partner. I had zero interest in that.
I love the whole truth and nothing but the truth, and will always choose honesty above all else. But on first dates, safety comes first. I don’t know if the person sitting across from me will turn into a raving lunatic upon rejection. I rather not chance it.
Even though my body and facial expression was screaming NO, out of my mouth came the words: “I am not sure.”
He looked deflated but said he understood. We walked out of the restaurant, quickly hugged goodbye, and went our separate ways.
“It is not easy to keep silent when silence is a lie.” ― Victor Hugo
The next day I opened Match, and was about to write him and tell him how I really felt. While I was deciding what to write, he blocked me.
Thank you! I love when things get resolved on their own.
Everything in life, and in this case, dates, are either a win or a lesson. This time, again, it was a lesson. I learned that I need to read profiles more carefully, ask more questions and pay attention to the answers.
While he seemed to be a nice person and I had a nice time, had I spent more time reading his profile and asking the right questions before the date, I would know he was not for me.
On the date, he said he was not interested in a committed relationship. It turns out he is still married, and there will be no divorce. It is a long story that he shared with me on the date, and I am choosing not to repeat here to protect the innocent.
I understand his situation. It has to do with his past, insurance, finances and a personal sense of obligation. Still, even if there was chemistry, I think it would be too much drama for me to get involved with.
While, at the moment, I am a bit tired and very slow with my dating efforts, I am still out there and still interested. I enjoy online dating. I enjoy first dates, I enjoy meeting new people; and for me it is still the best place for me to meet people. And I believe he is out there! It is okay if you call me delusional lol
Remember: Safety first when online dating!
“It’s discouraging to think how many people are shocked by honesty and how few by deceit.” ― Noël Coward, Blithe Spirit
Safety is paramount and I used to do the same. Men can get very angry when rejected and we must stay mindful of that. I found it much more comfortable to say no thanks online or in text…
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Hi Paula,
I agree, I find it best to not reject anyone on the first date.
Thank you and blessings to you!
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I haven’t had the motivation to date in many years. Not sure how I would meet my wonderful woman. 😊
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Hi Brad,
I understand. That is one of the reasons I always go back to online: lack of a better option.
Maybe she will find you when you least expect.
Blessings to you!
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He needs to be on Tinder or another hook up site. Married or not, he was looking for sex. Too many compliments like that is a huge red flag for me in the dating world. It almost seems like he’s a pig. It also makes me wonder what’s really going on in his marriage that he feels it’s okay to seek other relationships. Perhaps you should send a note to Match.com and let them know about the situation? My ex was doing this very thing on various dating sites when we were married. The right one is out there for you, Ana. Just don’t give up. You deserve a champion.
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Hi Mia,
You are right, and had he not blocked me I could have advised him of that.
I am quick to report everything to Match, but in this case I am not sure if he had actually written about his situation on his profile and I didn’t see it. At any rate, I have learned my lesson, and I am wiser for that.
“You deserve a champion” – oh I love that!! Thank you!
Blessings to you!
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Completely agree about safety first, especially for women, in the online dating world. Without getting into the details the large red flag would be the “still married” and “not interested in a relationship”. There are other words for that which better describes what he wants, whatever the circumstances are for him. Insurance, support, family…whatever it may be, my friend he chose this bed and he gets to sleep in it. Just not with you! And I cringed myself about the “I desire you” comment. For a First Meet, shocking! There has to be a lot better understanding of the person across from you before those phrases even enter your mind. Best always searching for what works for you.
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Hi Robbie,
I do feel bad about the situation that he told me about his life, but I rather feel bad from afar.
I know, right? that “I desire you”, was just creepy, so out of place and time.
I think he is just clueless about searching for what he wants. Good luck to him.
The search continues for me…
Thank you and blessings to you!
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Good luck. 🍀 I hope you find the right person. I met my M online after some huge relationship misfires. We emailed and chatted on the phone for a month before meeting, and by then we were beginning to think we might be right for each other. On our first date, we both felt like we were at the beginning of a very good thing, and we became inseparable. 11 years later we are still mad about each other. I hope the same happens for you. 🙂
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Thank you Lynette,
I am so happy to read stories such as yours. They give me life and it tells me that it could happen.
I will continue searching for my own M.
Blessings to you and thank you for sharing your story!
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Safety first!!! We don’t want dates end in murder.
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haha, no, never, not the end that I want when they make a movie out of my life lol
Thank you and blessings to you Cassa!
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Wise words, Ana. Something to keep in mind. I love reading about your practical sense no matter what scenario.
Also interesting to read about his situation. I actually understand where he is coming from but agree that it is difficult for a new date in his life to accept. You don’t know the family’s side of the story, if the wife is aware and has consented to dating as well, etc. Many severed but financially linked situations, especially with kids, have that mutual consent situation of “we’re not romantically linked but until the kids are out of the house we pool the finances” agreement. It’s hard for those in the family and hard for those who date a member of that family.
And clean breaks are not always an option, as I am well aware. Timing isn’t always on your side.
Anyway, lots of food for thoughts, as usual, with your stories. Glad to read you don’t get hung up and keep safety at the forefront. 💟
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Hi Claudette,
I do sympathize and try to be understanding of people in different situations and entanglements. At my age, everyone has had a whole life, kids, and some, even grandkids. But the “no commitment” part is a deal breaker for me. And, as far as I understood his situation he will never get divorced. At least, if there was an end in sight, but is not the case here.
It is definitely not a situation I want to get into, no matter how much chemistry is there. Been there, done that!
Life is hard, relationships are hard, the more I date, the more I realize what I can and cannot put up with.
I am a romantic, but do have a practical side. If it doesn’t work, doesn’t work, I am quick to move on. I am not about to insist on something that I know it will not bring me happiness in the end. Been there, done that!
Thank you for your comments that are always full of wisdom! They always offer me a different point of view.
Blessings to you!
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I agree and you are wise.
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Thank you 🙂
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I can appreciate your honesty, greatly, but am less a fan of the ‘mating dance’. I would prefer to think that you perceptively picked up on a creepy vibe he exuded than that he didn’t play the game properly. We are all allowed to simply not like someone as well. I don’t play the game well. I’ve had women play hard to get and I just drop them immediately. I very much appreciate that you tried to be direct and honest with him though.
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Hello,
I hate games, but in dating, as in life, there are certain rules of behavior. He was clueless, not as to the game, as there was no game, but to how one should not behave on or say on a first date – that is, if they want a second date. It is more about reading the room, reading the cues that the other person is sending you, or not.
While I appreciate honesty, I didn’t say in so many words that I was not interested at all, as I was not sure of his response. My safety is always at the forefront of my mind.
Thank you so much for your thoughts! Blessings!
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It’s weird that he did that. So, enamored as he was with you, he needed to be the first to end the relationship, even though it wasn’t one yet, and even though you didn’t intend on going in that direction. From afar it appears he’s a bit of a control freak.
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Hi Rob,
Exactly, it felt so out of character from the guy that I had just met the night before. He had said that I could take all the time in the world to decide. I have his phone number, so perhaps he thought I would text him. He doesn’t have my number.
At any rate, I was not sad he blocked.
Wishing you and Coda a blessed weekend!
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This person lost all cred with me with “I desire you”, Ana. Who can pull off those three words without referring to something physical? No one. And on a first date? Talk about giving away your intentions. My daughter spent several years online dating, perfecting her screening technique by always meeting for a drink in a crowded bar first. She was initially too quick to judge her choices but eventually learned to read the signs both good and bad – like you do. Ultimately she met her future husband, a person who was wholly honest in his profile. In other words, the reality lined up with the expectation. To me that’s half the battle right there.
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Hi Dave,
Those 3 words were just so out of place and time, I didn’t even know what to say. Totally clueless! Even if I was interested in that, it would be a turn off.
I am glad your daughter found a great person for her. I am sure there are other great ones out there. I know that eventually I will find him, or die trying lol
Blessings to you!
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“At the end of the date, he mentioned again that he was very enamored by me and wanted to see me again. He said: “I desire you”. That just made me cringe.”
That would make me cringe too, especially after I heard he is married. Not sure this is appropriate but ‘the slime bag”.
That can cure your desire to date..so shake it off and move on! 💗
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Hi Cindy,
I just shake my head as to how clueless some people are.
Married or unmarried, it was the wrong place and time to say anything like that. Specially since I was not inviting any of his comments.
Moving on indeed.
Thank you and blessings!
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Thank you for sharing!!.. I suspect with is conversation he were looking for a “one night stand” and a good thing you followed your heart and your mind agreed!.. I am sure there is a certain someone out there on his path and think life is putting the both of you through this ordeal so your hearts (and minds) know what they want and willing to compromise when the meeting happens.. 🙂
Hope your path of life is paved with love and happiness and until we meet again..
May flowers always line your path
and sunshine light your way,
May songbirds serenade your
every step along the way,
May a rainbow run beside you
in a sky that’s always blue,
And may happiness fill your heart
each day your whole life through.
(Irish Saying)
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Hi Larry,
I am so blessed that, often, people reveal themselves to me right away, so there is not a lot of time and energy spent on something/someone that wouldn’t be good for me in the long run.
I know you are right, there is someone out there… just a matter of finding each other.
Blessings to you!
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