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“A good place to meet a man is at the dry cleaner. These men usually have jobs and bathe.” – Rita Rudner
Here is a summary of the dates I had with P., the finance guy. I am not going on dates or speaking to anyone else or checking online profiles at this time. I want to give him my full attention and a fair chance. I also don’t have much time lately. I am not sure what he is doing, but I don’t think he is online anymore.
At this point it would not bother me if he is dating other women as I am free to date also. I am just choosing not to do it for lack of time and energy. But when the time comes that we are intimate then we will have the commitment conversation. I don’t like the idea of sleeping with someone that is sleeping around.
Date 1 – Posto 22 – Italian Restaurant in my town – I had eggplant and angel hair pasta and we shared the tartufo for dessert.
He chose the restaurant after I gave him the names of 5 restaurants near me. I wanted him to choose.
I was expecting a nice guy but nothing else. My investment in this date was minimal. I just left my building and turned the corner and the restaurant is right there. He drove over 1 hour in a car with no heat in below freezing temperature.
I liked him right away. He seemed a bit nervous and shy but totally interested in me and all I had to say. I often have a lot to say. I didn’t think I was going to like him so much, but I did. At end I was excited and dreaming of the possibilities.
He asked me on a second date that night.
“A thought, even a possibility, can shatter and transform us.” – Friedrich Nietzsche
Date 2 – Lea Wine Bar – Tapas/Sushi place in New York City – I had a couple of Lychee Martinis, sushi and empanadas
I chose the place, I didn’t want to and almost canceled over having to choose. Later I explained to him that I rather have the man choose the place. He said that he thought it was thoughtful to let me choose but that he had no problem in choosing from then on.
We held hands. We kissed for the first time. It didn’t blow me away, but I think he is shy and being extra cautious not to scare me away by being overly enthusiastic and being too physical.
He complimented me on my hair.
He walked me to the train and sat with me until it was time for the train to leave.
I was relieved that I still liked him on the second date as much as on the first. That rarely happens.
“And think not you can direct the course of love, for love, if it finds you worthy, directs your course.” – Kahlil Gibran
Date 3 – Naples 45 – Italian Restaurant in New York City – We had pizza with no cheese and chicken Milanese, prosecco and wine, cheesecake and tiramisu.
I think he completely forgot he told me he would start choosing the restaurant and again he asked me to choose. For a second I was extremely annoyed over it. Is he paying attention to what I am saying?
I stopped and chose non-reaction. Nothing. I let those feelings wash over me and I concentrated on the work I was doing at work.
Later I told him we would meet by the clock inside Grand Central Station. When I met him there I got my phone out and we chose the nearest Italian restaurant together. Italian is his favorite cuisine.
I decided not to bring up the choosing the restaurant issue. I consider that a huge shift, and growth moment for me. I am choosing to do what is uncomfortable: not speaking all that is on my mind. Perhaps being the one choosing the meals is not such a bad thing. He is the one paying. I decided to change my view on that.
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorns have roses.” – Alphonse Karr
He had on a suit and tie as he had gone to a meeting in the afternoon and looked very handsome. As usual he kept complimenting me and saying how beautiful I was. What girl doesn’t like to hear that? I am a sucker for it. I am independent, self assured, professional and confident, still I want to hear a man tell me that I am pretty.
We talked about the stock market since that is the business he is. It was nice to hear the passion for it in his voice.
He mentioned Valentine’s Day and the need to choose a place and reserve it soon. Again he said I can choose whatever I want. One of the reasons I don’t like to choose is that I don’t want to seem I am choosing expensive places. Since he is not choosing I am going to make a list of all the restaurants I want to try and start crossing them off my list.
During dinner he asked me what I was doing the next evening (Saturday) and if I wanted to get together for dinner and movie. I said yes.
After dinner he walked me to the train station. When we got there I saw that my train was about to leave so I ran for it leaving him in mid-sentence. I barely gave him a peck on the cheek. I felt so stupid afterwards. I always do that. I run for trains even though there is always another one after.
I apologized later. He said he was left confused but ended up seeing the humor in it.
Date 4 – Patrias – My favorite restaurant in my town -Tapas Spanish place – We had the pan com tomate, cod fish croquettes, fried chicken and a vegetarian paella.
He showed up looking like a rock star in a leather jacket and spiky hair. He definitely looks younger than his age.
We talked, flirted, and ate wonderful food. He chose to drink water, I had sangria. We were supposed to go to the movies after but I decided against it because I thought it would be too late for him to go home after, and I wanted him to stop by my apartment also.
In the afternoon I had gone to an Italian bakery and gotten his favorite dessert to surprise him: Ricotta cheesecake. So I said that we should go back to my place for dessert. Even though it is only the fourth date I trusted him enough and felt comfortable enough to have him over to my place.
He was pleasantly surprised that I took the time to go and find his favorite dessert. I made coffee and he had the cake. I put American Indian music on, something he enjoys – It was nice and peaceful.
And oh yeah, I put pajamas on.
I am so used to getting in my apartment, removing my shoes and either putting in exercise clothes or something comfortable. My apartment is on the cold side so I felt more comfortable in my cozy long pajamas.
He is so nice and he is going out of his way not to do anything to scare me away so I knew that he wouldn’t even try to kiss me. When I mentioned something about that, he said: “I am not going to spoil this, this is a long term investment. I have time and I have patience“. I just thought it was an adorable answer and shows me where his heart and mind is.
It is great not to feel pressured to do anything I am not ready for.
“Being male is a matter of birth. Being a man is a matter of age. But being a gentleman is a matter of choice.” – Vin Diesel
He didn’t make any moves on me. I initiated. We just snuggle and we kissed. The kissing was still awkward and not that exciting to me. Is that a sign of things to come? If the kissing is this lackluster what about all the rest? I am hoping that is just because he still seems nervous.
He said I looked great in the blouse I had on before I changed, which showed some cleavage. He said my arms also looked great in it. It seemed like an odd compliment. I don’t like the way my arms look as they lack muscle tone at the moment. Plus I would have thought that my cleavage would blind him to everything else.
I almost forgot a detail. The restaurant I chose didn’t take credit card, so instead of telling him to bring cash, I figure I could buy dinner this one time.
When he asked for the check and pulled the card out, I said: They don’t accept credit card. His face fell. He said: I don’t carry cash, I have to go to an ATM. I said: Don’t worry, I brought cash. He continued to tell me that we would find an ATM after.
By the time the waitress came with the check she said that now they do accept card. He was relieved. Then it turned out that there was a problem with the chip in his card and had to be swiped instead but the waitress seemed flustered so I insisted on paying.
Immediately after leaving, he saw an ATM inside the Mexican Restaurant next door and insisted on going in and paying me back. He said: There is no way I invite you to dinner and let you pay. That is my kind of guy!!
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I have additional comments and observations about him, well, us really, but I will have in a next post. I am trying to post more often and not make such long posts, which I clearly failed again. Oftentimes I write and write and by the time I am finished the material seems stale, so I am trying to change that.
“Daughter! Get you an honest Man for a Husband, and keep him honest. No matter whether he is rich, provided he be independent. Regard the Honour and moral Character of the Man more than all other Circumstances. Think of no other Greatness but that of the soul, no other Riches but those of the Heart. An honest, Sensible humane Man, above all the Littlenesses of Vanity, and Extravagances of Imagination, labouring to do good rather than be rich, to be usefull rather than make a show, living in a modest Simplicity clearly within his Means and free from Debts or Obligations, is really the most respectable Man in Society, makes himself and all about him the most happy.” – John Adams, Letter of John Adams, Addressed to his wife
So excited for you! I can’t wait for the next update!!
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Thank you! I can’t wait to see how things will unfold next.. wishing you a blessed week!
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Oh I’m so glad you’ve enjoyed your four dates. I’ll just live vicariously through you:)
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Thank you so much! Go ahead and live up, I hope not to disappoint!! Many blessings! 🙂
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My fingers are crossed that this guy remains everything good:)
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We shall see… Some times they are just a lesson. Thank you for the good wishes 🙂
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Yup I’ve had a lot of lessons:(
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You actually make me think perhaps I should try again.
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Never give up trying! I get tired, take breaks, but I always get back to it. I know in my heart there is someone out there for me, so I will keep trying until I find him or he finds me, whichever comes first. 🙂
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Good attitude!
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Thank you! 🙂
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Ahh. The first few dates are always the most exciting (if it is a match at least 😉 )
Really try to enjoy it, because it will never feel like that anymore!
Hope it will work out for you guys 🙂
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Hi Andrea
I agree, this getting to know each other period is fun and exciting, so I am going to try to enjoy it as much as I can instead of looking for problems.
Keep tuned in … it may be a match or just a learning experience.
Thank you for the good wishes! Blessings! 🙂
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4 dates, fantastic. You must like him to buy his favourite dessert and make him feel good. He also seems very considerate and a gentleman from your illustration. Enjoy no 5 and let it unfold slowly. I like that he gives you compliments too. Glad you are open with the restaurant choice, keep it that way , have an open mind. I love Italian too, great choices. Have fun and enjoy!
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4 is the most dates I have had with someone is a real long time, years probably, so it is a totally new experience to navigate. I am going slow, exercising patience and keeping an open mind. Thank you for the good wishes! 🙂
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So happy for you!!
Have a blessed day ahead ❤
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Thank you, thank you!! Many blessing to you too! 🙂
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I love your musings! They are like water! I can’t get enough! Not long at all! It was like watching a movie! Its funny, Asians take photos of their food.. I love how you describe the entrees in detail haha…
And as for the kissing thing… see how time goes… intimacy is built and sometimes sparks are instant, and for others its a slow progression that, according to research, actually lasts longer… so just saying… they say if given the choice between the one who gives you butterflies and the one who makes you feel safe and secure, choose the latter. Definitely need to be with a guy more into a woman than the other way around, this way she can choose the nicest restaurants and report back to us later how it went! Hahaha…very happy for you and glowing from ear to ear.. big hugs.. just follow your gut.. and the littlest observations are important so feel free to share! There will always be something we aren’t thrilled about but aren’t necessarily deal breakers. Mine smokes but he is also smoking hot so.. compromise..bahahahah
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I was going to be really detailed with the food but I didn’t want the post to get way too long. My plan now is to write more often so I can be detailed and the posts not to get too crazy long.
I hope you are right and that things will eventually be more exciting and even better, long lasting. I do get butterflies with him, and then his mouth touches mine and it seems he doesn’t know what to do. It is really bad. I may need to teach him, and I wonder if he will be okay with that.
Thank you for sharing my happiness and excitement. As things develop I will definitely share more so I can get your feedback.
“he smokes, but he is smoking hot” !!!! I love how you said that. Perhaps that would make me forgot I don’t like smokers either. It is interesting what we can put up with if we like someone.
Compromise – another necessary word for a great long lasting relationship.
Hugs and blessings to you girl!! 🙂
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Hugs…. and very happy to see you are enjoying the journey. Part of this journey is learning to honour and cherish what’s important to us without apology. Sometimes having had so many disconnections, it can be a sigh of relief to have met a kindred soul. Whether or not this blossoms into romance, time will tell.
Kissing is communication and so conveying what you like is important and a good test of his character to see how he handles feedback. From what you have described so far, he seems receptive and you could always give yourself a deadline of how long you are willing to wait.
Either way, be true to who you are and never feel bad for what you want. The moment you are honest with yourself about what you deserve, truly deserve, is when all the answers become clear.
Hugs and love to you!
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Thank you and blessings! 🙂
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A great article on how to fix a terrible kisser, amidst many articles I found when I googled about what if my date is a bad kisser https://www.eharmony.com/dating-advice/dating/how-to-fix-a-terrible-kisser/
Basically, they can be retrained possibly! And if not, you will need to decide if it’s a deal breaker 🙂
Hugs and much love to you….and hope I didn’t offend you with my words, gah. hugs
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Thank you so much for sending me that!! I am going to go read it right now!! I hope your weekend is a blessed one! 🙂
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You write a compelling tale. Glad to hear it is going well. Can I offer you a perspective on the restaurant choice – he wants to please you. Letting you choose shows he putting your preferences ahead of his own. You want him to take charge more. Maybe rotate. That’s what my husband and I finally agreed upon. Anyway, restaurant choice or not – it’s not a deal breaker. Keep going.
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Thank you! 🙂 Indeed men and women have different perspectives, I just need to keep reminding myself that. I am so used to wanting things to go a certain way and when they don’t I am immediately get turned off and move on to the next person. I am trying not to do that now. I am trying to be patient and non-reactive and give “us” a shot. Since you mentioned “deal breaker”, perhaps it is time I re-evaluate mine. Thank you for the great insight! Blessings! 🙂
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Well – that is a great update! I’m happy you are having fun. Good for you for just being observant and seeing what happens. Although, if you mention a preference again and he ignores it, I would have difficulty not following through and talking about that. I agree that you definitely need to be clear on your deal breakers!
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Thank you so much! Like you I know I won’t be able to keep quiet too long if I think he is not listening and not paying attention to what I am telling him. Communication is key, so it is better to say something sooner rather than later. Let’s wait and see… I hope you are having a blessed week! 🙂
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Happy for you! ❤
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Thank you! 🙂 Blessings!
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What a delightful post – so glad I found it! Really takes one back to one’s single days. Keep up the great storytelling! 🙂
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Thank you so much for stopping by. I am glad you enjoyed. It can be brutal being single out here, but it can be also very entertaining.
Wishing you a blessed weekend ahead! 🙂
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Charming. And peppered with great quotes!
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Thank you! I am glad you enjoyed! Blessings!:-)
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Sounds like a nice guy. I’m rooting for you.
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He does sound great, let’s see what the future holds. Thank you for the support! Have a blessed weekend! 🙂
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Well, it sounds like you really do have a winner here. Just know this. I once dated a woman and her kissing was, well, not so great. We, of course, did not go long-term, but dated for quite a long time. I don’t know what intimacy would have been like, but there were too many other problems for that to be the one that stopped it all.
However, thinking about it, kissing is very important to me. If I can’t comfortably kiss the woman I want to be with, what happens? I agree with you. Wait and find out. Give it time and see where it all goes and what it turns out to be. He may be nervous. He may be less than stellar in kissing…you will have to decide if it all balances out or not – don’t do it now. There is time. You two may even end up talking about it. You know- people can learn to kiss.
Scott
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I am taking it easy and hoping that I can direct the kissing to what I like without having to talk about it. I think he would be embarrassed and he is just too nice for me to put him in that situation, but at the same time if things don’t click then the relationship is doomed.
People can learn anything if they are willing to learn. It is not even that he doesn’t know how to kiss. I think we just have different styles. Perhaps he is now thinking the same about me lol
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Well, good luck, if you need practice…just sayin’
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hahaha, thank you! It is good to have options…
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🙂
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Hi There, I’m just now running into your blog and I’ve got to say… it’s amazing. I hope it works out for you, but you’re right; sometimes they’re just a learning lesson for the next best thing. There was a time I didn’t make it past one, so you’re good😊😊😉
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Thank you so much! I rarely make past the first date so this is a whole new territory for me. We shall see what unfolds next. Thank you for stopping by and for the kind words. Blessings! 🙂
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I haven’t been on a 4th date for awhile but I like a man who is also a neighbor in my apartment building. He lives on the 3rd floor and I live downstairs. Only trouble is he is younger, it doesn’t bother me and he seems ok, too. We shall see when we go beyond watching television. Smiles, Robin 🌞
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That sounds promising!! I am wishing you all the best with that. Some men are secure and comfortable with being with an older women.
It sounds like things are going slow and that is the best way to create something lasting.
Keep me informed 🙂
Thank you and blessings! 🙂
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