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“By seeking and blundering we learn.” ― Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
This is how I ended my last post (when mentioning a date for that night):
“He is a well respected children’s librarian. How bad can he be? Don’t answer that! Lol”
Well, the answer is: It was really good and then really bad!
It is amazing how it can go from great to insane in one day.
At his insistence we went to a very expensive restaurant in New York City. I mentioned it was not necessary and that he should choose a less expensive place, but he insisted and said that I could pay for the drinks if it would make me feel better about it. I agreed.
We spent over 2 hours at the restaurant. Conversation flowed. He seemed honest and caring. At the end of the evening I felt so comfortable with him that I accepted his offer to drive me home. It was out of his way but he said it would give us a chance to talk more. I think he wanted to show off his car, a brand new Porsche Macan. While I don’t care about material things, especially cars, I couldn’t help but love the red leather interior. I love red leather anything!
The drive home was fast and fun. He held my hand and it felt natural and comfortable. It all seemed just perfect. When we got to my building he walked me to the entrance and kissed me on the cheek. Ten minutes later he called me from the car to say that he would like to see me again. He also asked me to give him one month to get to know him; he asked that I did not date other people during that one month so that he would have my undivided attention. I said I would think about it, but, really, I was okay with that.
I was very excited about this date. He seemed very smart, with good job that he loved, a respected professional, handsome (which is surprising because I normally don’t go for handsome). I saw and felt potential.
The next day (Friday) he texted me to say he really enjoyed meeting me the night before and to invite me to go hiking on Sunday. I loved the idea! I said I would call him after work to discuss the details.
I called him around 7pm. What happened next is very hard to find the words to describe: The phone rang, he picked up but there was no Hello, there was what it seemed like a conversation in a very slurred voice going on in the background. At first I thought that perhaps he didn’t realize he answered the phone and the TV was on. I kept listening and trying to make sense of whatever I was hearing, which seemed to be a far away mumbling voice. After awhile I said hello again, a bit louder and firmer this time. Then I heard something like: I am fine but just feeling a bit discombobulated. I said: excuse? At this point I told him that I thought something was wrong with my phone and asked him to speak louder. He did speak louder and now there was a bit less slurring, but instead of having a conversation he immediately launched into a monologue about Winston Churchill and the war. He kept talking and talking, and I was thinking to myself, is this guy drunk or on drugs, and how I can get out of this.
At this point I knew in my gut that there was no future in this relationship. Well I actually knew it when he first picked up the phone.
Finally I was able to get a break in the monologue and I asked: Is this a book you are reading? He said it was a documentary. After he talked about Churchill some more, I asked another question and we actually started having a conversation.
As time went on, his speech seemed to get better. After telling me how he enjoyed meeting me, he started talking about this one month of dating that he had in mind. He said: “We need to talk about the dates. If we are seeing each other for one month, about 2 dates a week that will be at least 8 dates, how do you want to do it?”
Even though I had already decided not to see him again, I asked: Do what? He then says: “Who pays for what? I pay for one date, you pay for the next?”
I was floored! I don’t mind paying for things, but for a man to ask something like that after one date it seems in very poor taste. If he cannot afford a second date, then he shouldn’t be dating. I said I had never been asked that before so I didn’t know what to say. He went on and on how that was the fair thing to do and it is best to get money issues out of the way. He said I am his first date in over 2 ½ years and that the previous girlfriend spent over 10K of his money.
There was a lot conversation about money and dating, with him trying to make me understand where he was coming from and with me telling him that I was not his ex-girlfriend. At one point I offered to write him a check for my part of the dinner the night before. I also reminded him that I didn’t want to go to an expensive place in the first place (to which he said he wanted it to be memorable and wanted it to become “our” place). I also reminded him that I had gladly paid for the drinks.
At some point he started backpedaling and telling me to forget about this issue of paying for dates. He said that we should just meet and see where it goes. I told him I was going to think about it all and call him in the morning. I already knew where I stood but I knew that he would continue to try to convince me otherwise. We said good bye and hung up, but 10 minutes later he started texting me. One of the many things that he mentioned in the texts was that he would pack sandwiches of peanut butter and jelly for Sunday so that we wouldn’t have to worry about paying for lunch. I told him that he was missing the point. To get him to stop with the texting I again said he needed to give me time to think about it.
Finally when he continues with the texting I just tell him the answer is no. No to the hiking and no to seeing him again. Then he starts calling me. I didn’t answer. On the 4th call he left me a voice mail breaking up with me. Yes, he broke up with me! 🙂
I have never been so relieved about being broken up with! He said I have issues with money, and that even though I was a great person and he would love to see me again, the money issues were too much. He went on and on about both, how great I am and how I have issues with money.
I don’t want to go in detail to protect his privacy but he had mentioned needing to go to therapy and taking antidepressants at some point in the past. I was a bit alarmed by that but I appreciated his honesty and openness. I also liked that he gotten help when he needed. I am now assuming he is still taking antidepressants and perhaps on Friday, his day off from work, he took one too many. Whatever the issue maybe I feel sorry for him because it seems he definitely has an issue that needs to be addressed. I also feel that even though he seems like he is taking steps to protect himself, he seems primed to be taken advantage of again.
After being spoiled with mostly normal to great online dates I now have had 2 doozies. They both had issues that I am not willing to handle. I am feeling so blessed that I got to discover those issues right away, before I started trusting and liking them and let my guard down.
Perhaps I am the one with issues as I am still not giving up online dating. More mistakes made. More lessons learned. More stories to tell and write about.
“Nowadays most people die of a sort of creeping common sense, and discover when it is too late that the only things one never regrets are one’s mistakes.” ― Oscar Wilde, The Picture of Dorian Gray
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On a good note, I am right now waiting for delivery of my new mattress. Yippie!!! All I need now is the boyfriend! 🙂
Whew. I got worried as I kept reading, dreading to find out what happened. Thank god, no, you know physical harm or something.
New bed! Nice!
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It was just a very weird situation, he was a completely different person than the one I had met the night before. I am glad I got to find that out from the safety of my apartment. Very nice bed indeed, I am testing it out tonight! 🙂 Blessings!
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Wow – that’s really out there!
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Indeed! 🙂
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Yes, once it gets to making peanut sandwiches, I would give up. Driving a Porsche and peanut sandwiches somehow doesn’t stack up very well.
Love is not all that it is claimed to be.
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I couldn’t wrap my head around that one either. After flaunting an expensive car he tells me I should pay for the second date and then later wants to pack sandwiches. I think that love will be all is claimed to be if I ever find it, until then I will just write up looking for it 🙂 Blessings! 🙂
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Strange to be sure! Better than the last, but not by much 😦 I hope you have more luck in the future!
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Yes, not as scary as the other one, but still very weird. But I will keep trying. Thank you! Have a blessed weekend! 🙂
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You as well! Many blessings!
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Thank you! 🙂
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You do have some experiences. There are so many funny men there with issues. Glad you did know early. My dates all used to be just in pubs, so no big bills and the first round I let him pay, the second I offered to pay. Nothing expensive though. I think he was a bit demanding with telling you 1 month dating no others etc.
Well you got out unharmed… hehe
Don’t your mattresses come with hunky boyfriends included? … I would check with the shop… 🙂
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I wished there were some pubs around me, they are fun! Perhaps I should started getting in the habit of paying for a date. I never do 🙂
I think I was lucky that he showed his true colors early on, I dodged a bullet!!
Well, the salesperson was interested in coming over with the mattress…but that is another story lol
Have a blessed weekend! 🙂
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:-)….. hehe free mattress testing… ?
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hahaha… what a concept lol
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Someone has to pay for the car…..what a nutter! You’re well out of that!
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haha Exactly what I thought! Has such an expensive car just for show. He also showed me pictures of his house…I guess he was trying to entice me. I am happy that is in the past now…on to the next one. Have a blessed weekend! 🙂
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Wow! That much planning in advance is SCARY! He sounds controlling. And he was using projection about the money issues. HE’S the one with money issues.
Freaky! Yes, you dodged a bullet.
🙂 Now something to make you smile:
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hahaha – That is one mad banana! Thank you, I needed that laugh! Blessings, oh yeah and I did dodge a bullet with that last guy…I am so blessed!
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I think he is the one with the money issues – perfect example of projection.
Alison
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Indeed! So glad that I got to find all of that out after only 1 date…feeling blessed about that! Thank you and blessings! 🙂
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I remember reading a really good article about cheap, fast, and easy.. as in.. those who are fast and easy (quick connection) will be expensive (take up your whole life). And those who are cheap and fast (won’t be easy), and those who are cheap and easy (as in won’t take up as much of your life and good connection, will take time to develop). It was a very interesting article as I do find some of these men expect some form of exclusivity right away which is a red flag for me… love reading about your adventures!
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oh that sounds like a interesting and fun article! I am never good with seeing red flags. I took this guy wanting exclusivity as a sign that he didn’t want to lose a good thing: me! lol I hope you are having a great weekend! Blessings! 🙂
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Yeah…most articles say that guys who push for exclusivity within a few dates is a red flag of using that to get you into bed or possess you …my last two relationships were like that and it puts too much emphasis on one guy…women make tgis mistake a lot according to an article…so dating a few at the same time, not necessarily sleeping with them, keeps you objective and prevents you from having yo start all over again
..and allows you time to get to know them….basically what i have read
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Good point! I will try it if I ever find 2 guys I want to date, right now it has been very hard finding one lol
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yeah…I know what you mean! Haha.. I’m taking a hiatus… just gonna date me for awhile
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Great plan! I should do the same! 🙂
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Ah, he lost you – what an idiot! Yes, it does sound as if he, perhaps, took an extra anti-depressant or had too much alcohol with it. In most cases, you should not have alcohol with anti-depressants anyway – he should have abstained on the date with you. I took them and did therapy for years. Both can help immensely and there’s nothing to be ashamed of. I take an anti-anxiety now which also helps depression, but I am told by my stroke therapist that I am not depressed – I would agree.
I do wish you luck and will repeat (because it feels nice to say it) that I wish I lived closer as you are one very special lady whom I would love to know better.
Scott
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He did almost have me for a second, then he messed up!:-) He was fine on the date, but the next day when he was off form work he may have taken more than the amount prescribed. I don’t think there is anything wrong with taking medicine when one needs it. You repeat yourself and I smile in agreement as I know we would be great friends too. Have a blessed weekend! 🙂
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🙂
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