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be more sensitive, Broken English, English idioms, identical twin sister, Never assume, nice guy but no thank you, online dating
“Your assumptions are your windows on the world. Scrub them off every once in a while, or the light won’t come in.” – Issac Asimov
I went on a date Wednesday night. I didn’t know much about the guy. I knew that he lived in Brooklyn and worked in the field of painting and construction. For some reason I didn’t ask where he was from, I thought I knew. I just assumed he was European. Probably from Poland or Ukraine. Yes, I should know better than to just assume things. 😦
The day before meeting him I told my sister that I thought it wouldn’t work out but that I was keeping an open mind. When she asked why, I answered that it was because of his broken English. My sister walked away, clearly unhappy about something. I think partly offended and partly shocked at that statement, again I am assuming.
I was not happy that she just walked away without asking me to clarify my statement. I was left to wonder to myself: What is really understood by “broken English”? Is it rude to say that somebody has broken English? Am I being hypocritical? Am I being insensitive?
My sister and I started learning English around 18 years old. I learned by immersing in life when I moved here. My sister learned by attending all kinds of classes while in Brazil. She is a languages teacher, she now teaches English and Portuguese. While her grammar is better than mine and she is able to translate the works of Shakespeare and such, I noticed that she lacks the confidence that comes with speaking it daily as I do. I have been living in NY for over 30 years and she just arrived.
I didn’t use “broken English” as criticism, a put down or an insult. I just meant that it would be difficult for us to communicate. I meant that his language skills needed a lot work and probably communication in person was going to be even more difficult than in writing.
My assumption was made based on his writing and based on an experience I had before. I once had a date with a man from Argentina and even though he was really nice and in emails there were no issues, in person it was a nightmare. We tried a combination of English, Spanish and Portuguese and we still could barely understand each other. He had been here already for over 10 years so I had to assume that his English was not getting any better. I always wonder if there had been any chemistry the language barrier would have been less noticeable.
I took this opportunity to approach my sister and discuss the need for more communication. Her modus operandi of walking away and brooding is not the best course of action on most situations. We are living together now and we are both fiercely independent so co-existing is already difficult, can you imagine if there is no clear communication?
She explained that she was offended since her English is not perfect. I am not sure how she took that leap but I just chose to respect her feelings. “Broken” implies that something needs to get fixed. I can see the negativity in it. She also agreed to speak up any time she has an issue with anything. Baby steps…
Lessons learned this time around:
- Be careful when using idioms and other phrases. I need to get back to studying and improving my vocabulary. I need to make sure that I know the exact meaning of words and phrases. It is easy to hear a word or phrase in a certain context and take that as gospel.
- Never assume you know something for a fact when you just suspect it is so. I keep having to learn this one lesson over and over and over again. Note to self: Never assume, always ask!
- Be more sensitive when speaking to my sister and others. She is new here. I need to watch the words I use and my tone of voice. My boss just told me I should stop yelling as I was discussing something with him. I was not yelling but I was frustrated and probably louder than usual. If he was your boss you would be frustrated too!! Still, “calm and collected” is not often used to describe me.
“I suppose it is tempting, if the only tool you have is a hammer, to treat everything as if it were a nail.” – Abraham H. Maslow
Here is the kicker: My date was a Brooklyn born American man!! Not from Europe or any other foreign place else at all. I was totally wrong in my assumptions.
I am not sure why the horrendous grammar. Perhaps he was just being hurried and careless.
He was a nice person and there were no issues in communicating in person. We had dinner at a Chinese Restaurant and the meal was good. We were not a match though. He was guilty of what I am normally guilty of. In the first 5 minutes he told me his entire life story.
He is a recovering drug addict and alcoholic. He gave up cigarettes 2 weeks ago. His credit is in shambles. He is trying to payoff student loans and credit cards. His cars is very old and it overheats. His childhood was dysfunctional and abusive, etc, etc While I appreciate the openness, it was all a bit too much to learn in one sitting especially since he had given no inclination of any of that in the emails. I guess he had the need to come clean right away.
I applaud him for trying to get his life on track. He seems to be working very hard to get it done. He enjoyed the date, commenting that I was not judgmental and he felt very comfortable with me. He was right I try to pass no judgement on anyone. We are all trying to fight some kind of battle.
He said he is okay with just being friends and wants to take me to see Beautiful, the Carole King musical next week. I love Broadway shows and I haven’t seen that one yet but I think I should decline. I know he says he is okay with friendship, but he wants more, so I would feel I am taking advantage of him. Still I would like to be his friend but don’t want him thinking it will lead to something more. It is a very fine unclear line to walk.
Thank you for reading!
Make this weekend count! May it be a blessed one!
“The unthankful heart discovers no mercies; but the thankful heart will find, in every hour, some heavenly blessings.” – Henry Ward Beecher
You should hear the way some people born and raised in the South (some people not all) talk too. Broken English is a thing, whether on purpose or not…. like my broken Brazilian 🙂 none of my business but….I am curious why you dont find out more about your dates before you go out with them, especially in a big place like NYC?
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No more broken Brazilian for you, From now on you will learn real Portuguese 😉
I used to find out everything about the guys that I meet but lately for some reason I am not doing much research or asking too many questions anymore. I am not really sure why.
I promise you I am always safe. 🙂
Sending you blessings! 🙂
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I dated a young woman who had whatI was told is called “malapropism”. Many times she would tell me something or say something in conversation and use the wrong word. The word was a good word, but made the sentence mean something totally different. I could follow her; I could figure out what she meant, but it was a constant effort. I see the dificulty here, as well.
Scott
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That is an interesting situation trying to figure out what someone means, it can be tiring and frustrating.
In this case of my date, since he is American and have attended college I wondered if he is just careless when writing. Verbally he seemed fine.
Blessings! 🙂
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And, some people write better (or worse) than they speak.
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For sure. In writing one also has a chance to edit and revise it…if they care enough .
Wishing you a blessed week!
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“if” and “care”. It’s rough when those two words are in the same sentence…
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That is some food for thought right there!!! 🤗
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🙂
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Language is such a hard thing. I think that nowadays there’s a need for most people to work on their language/grammar skills. From people who just came to the states to those who are here for 30+ years. People who are born and raised in the U.S. need to work on their writing and grammar skills. The truth of the matter is, the English language is a complicated system. To say that someone speaks “broken” English may (and I think is) be offensive. Even the term “limited” English implies that a person is set back from something. Recently, I read Amy Tan’s “Mother-Tongue,” and I think her essay highlights what’s problematic about the term “broken” English pretty well.
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Indeed, with texting and emojis people are getting lax with their writing skills.
I have never understood or used “broken English” in a negative way but I am now more aware of how it can be seen as negative and how it people can be sensitive to it.
I am going to read that essay by Amy Tan.
Thank you for great insight! Blessings! 🙂
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That was a funny twist that he turned out to be a born and raised American. I find that a lot of people nowadays, especially because of acronyms and other shorthand and emoji, have terrible writing skills.
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When I asked: Where are you from? and he said: Born and raised in Brooklyn, I almost fell off of my chair.
Indeed, texting and emojis are changing written communication and not for the better.
Wishing you a blessed week! 🙂
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And same to you.
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You can tell a lot about someone’s texting about their education level and language skills but sometimes it’s caused by other factors like being busy or rushing. I think you’re right about phrases and assumptions though, although I agree with ourlifein3D about perhaps doing a little more conversing before you meet. Your English is excellent by the way and I would never have guessed that it is not your first language 🙂
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Most of the time I can tell how a person is by the way they write, in this case it was so misleading. Perhaps I should make him aware of that.
It is a fine line of trying to get to know someone and not wasting my time (energy and heart) with endless back and forth. I had exchanged a lot messages with this guy but, because of what I thought was broken English, the communication was not that great, so I decided to just meet. Also I always rather meet sooner rather than later. It is really disappointing when I think someone is so great in emails and then in person is nothing like I thought.
Thank you for your insight and wishing you a blessed week! 🙂
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Decline! Decline! He may seem to be a nice guy and maybe he really is but I promise you nothing good can come from this. Run as far as you can in the opposite direction!!!
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When I first read your comment days ago it seemed so harsh. Now is on point!! Thank You! Blessings!
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I am sorry if it sounded harsh…..I tend to be a bit dramatic. You have to be careful out there!
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No need to be sorry. You were right. I am a just too willing to trust sometimes. I need a dose of reality sometimes! 🤗🤗
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I’m a speech-language pathologist, so I focus on language and communication when I meet people. Even when I try to turn off that part of my brain, it doesn’t work.
As for Beautiful – it’s a fun show and you should go see it. Even if it’s not with this man.
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Hi Dee
Indeed sometimes we can’t help but notice certain.
I could use a speech pathologist. I have a lisp…deemed cute by some but still a distraction…
I am not going with this guy but I will eventually see it.
I have to stop thinking of cookies any time I see your comments 🤔
Wishing you a blessed week! 😁
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Some people have a sort of disability in grammar and spelling.
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I am finding that out. I am not sure if they don’t realize it or if they do and don’t care or they can’t do anything about it.
Wishing you a blessed day!
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Sisters are tough!😘
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For sure 🙂 But still blessed to have them, right? 😉
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True that!😜
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There are persons who cannot improve their language because of the environment they live. Some people has been living for years in the USA and don`t care about learning English. Your article compasses a tender subject! Good luck!
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Hi Dana
Some people are able to overcome their environments and blossom no matter what, but most are slaves to it unfortunately.
And then there are others, that as you said, just don’t care to improve their situation. It is indeed a delicate subject.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts and I wish you a blessed day! 🙂
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This is a very honest post. It is good to be aware of unconscious bias. It sounds likes this person is not for you, and you should listen to your instincts, whilst respecting difference, which is exactly what you have done. Good for you for not messing him around.
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Hi Ali
Thank you so much! I always try my hardest to be honest not only with myself but with others. You are right about listening to my instincts.
I thought I could be at least his friends but it didn’t work out. I will write about it in a next post.
Thank you for stopping by and I wish you a blessed day! 🙂
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What do you mean for “He was guilty of what I am normally guilty of” ? do you have any examples ?
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Hi, I just meant that I am normally the person that tells my entire life story within the first 5 minutes of a date. This time my date was the one that told me his entire past at first meeting. He didn’t hold back, he told me about all his addictions and struggles. This time I didn’t say much about my life.
I hope that explains it. 🙂
Many blessings! 🙂
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